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Does anyone have a tendency to let the bedroom get all messy, as in piles of clothes on the chair, can't see the top of the dresser, etc.?  If so, anyone found a way to deal effectively with the clothes pile on the chair issue? 

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Lisa, I wish I could give you a solution to this as I have the same problem. If you get anyone (seriously) to answer with an effective method, please share it with me! I actually try and manage it much better when my husband isn't deployed to Iraq or where ever else the Army may send him. However when he is gone, my bedroom suffers! Not so much everything else but I do have older children that have chores that they are required to maintain, which helps me a lot! Anyway thank you for posting this. It makes me feel less alone. I am sorry though that you have to suffer with the same problem.

Cherlene :0)
Oh my goodness! I have the SAME problem! No matter how hard I try, and how many times I spend DAYS cleaning my room out and reorganizing... it just ends up as a mess in half the time. It's crazy and I don't know how to fix it either (aside from trying to find the time and focus to keep trying to sort it out)
Wish I could help but this one is something we're in together dear. Maybe there is a comfort in knowing you are not alone :) *hugs*
That was my thoughts exactly....lol. In fact today I walked into my room when I got back from grocery shopping and I just couldn't be in there. At the same time I really didn't want to tackle that job either. I just bought a journal this week though to write in it daily a list of things that I feel that I can accomplish. As I do this, I try and check off each thing. It does help remind me what I need to get done and at the same time keep me on track of what I can do in one day. I have found lately if I give myself too many things I get way to overwhelmed. Today is actually the first day where I accomplished more than 90% on the list! I am at least proud of my attempt to fix this. I am hoping keeping a daily journal will help me in the long run. It's a start anyway.

Cherlene :0)

Rina-O said:
Oh my goodness! I have the SAME problem! No matter how hard I try, and how many times I spend DAYS cleaning my room out and reorganizing... it just ends up as a mess in half the time. It's crazy and I don't know how to fix it either (aside from trying to find the time and focus to keep trying to sort it out)
Wish I could help but this one is something we're in together dear. Maybe there is a comfort in knowing you are not alone :) *hugs*
This is a problem with which I had tried to cope with for many years. Now I understand the one in, one out rule. First of all when we bring something new in to the home, One thing must go out. If you just have to "air" out an article of clothing, use a valet, not the chair. The best thing I have ever incorporated into my home is a laundry sorter with three divisions. Darks, whites and colours. As you remove an article of clothing it gets put on the valet, hook in the closet or in the laundry sorter. By sorting the laundry as you take off your clothes, it saves a step in the laundry process. Usually the clothes end up in the chair as they have no "home". Make sure everything you own looks good, makes you feel and look good.
Andrea said:
While I've always found it that my room ends up the same after a couple of weeks, I do find that getting it cleaned up always starts with just picking up one piece of clothing and starting a pile. I usually have to set aside some time in the evening, about 45 minutes to an hour, and then I start to just go one article of clothing at a time, in no particular order, and place them all in a pile on the bed by "type" - be it - pants, shirts, socks... Then from there, I start to move them to the dresser by or closet by pile. It does take a while, and I usually go in with a good healthy dose of anxiety on my shoulders, but once it's done I feel so much better.

That's my suggestion! :)
I like what you explained as your process. What may make it fun instead of an anxiety issue, is look at your wardrobe as you would a small designer boutique. As you sort your clothes decide how you would like them displayed as you would find them in a shop. Good luck!

Heather Burke said:
Andrea said:
While I've always found it that my room ends up the same after a couple of weeks, I do find that getting it cleaned up always starts with just picking up one piece of clothing and starting a pile. I usually have to set aside some time in the evening, about 45 minutes to an hour, and then I start to just go one article of clothing at a time, in no particular order, and place them all in a pile on the bed by "type" - be it - pants, shirts, socks... Then from there, I start to move them to the dresser by or closet by pile. It does take a while, and I usually go in with a good healthy dose of anxiety on my shoulders, but once it's done I feel so much better.

That's my suggestion! :)
If it is the chair that bothers you...start with that. Clean it out and never let yourself put anything back on it no matter how tired you are, how many things you are carrying...not even for a second while you run do something else. No exceptions, no excuses...no nothing. Even if that is the only rule in your house...never put something in that chair again and make sure hubby or a significant other follows through too.

It will give you a boost of confidence to have at least one area of your room that is clean...and it can become contagious. Well, maybe if I can keep the chair clean, I can keep the dresser clean too! (This is the same principle as Flylady but she wants you to do more.)

You can also cut back on stuff. If you haven't used it in 90 days...you likely won't. Get rid of it. If you have a problem doing that...put it in boxes and if you don't find yourself hunting for it in those boxes, get rid of the boxes without opening them. You didn't need it in 90 days...you don't need it now. It's cheaper to go buy something than to have it sit as clutter on your brain. Can't afford to do this? Look on e-bay...someone else has the same thing sitting in a closet that they want to sell and after you are missing yours...buy theirs.

Cleaning can be overwhelming...but nobody is going to do it for you...so set your mind to it and start small so you don't get overwhelmed. (Fill one box a week and date it so that you can get rid of it after 90 days...60 if you want the process to be faster.)

For sentimental things...they can't replace the person they remind you of and they are just "things"..but you still have the memories of that person so let the stuff you don't use or really don't like go...and keep ONE or TWO very special reminders of that person. (Furniture and monetary valuables are excluded in my opinion unless you hate them anyway :)).

Also, don't go to a yard sale after you purge and buy a bunch more stuff. This goes for Kmart and Walmart as well. If you don't need it and wouldn't use it on a daily basis DON'T BUY IT!!!

I used to have a wickedly messy house...I mean so bad I wouldn't take pictures in the house for fear people would SEE my mess and I wouldn't let my kids have friends over because of the mess...and now that I have cleaned it out, my tolerance level has changed. Now if I see something that needs cleaning it drives me nuts so I just take a few minutes and get it done.

I feel like a hypocrite for giving cleaning advice because my house was such a disaster, but I made it through and so can you. It just takes time...and perhaps a nearby salvation army, a garage sale, or a dumpster in the front yard for a couple months. In my case, it was moving into a new house. Either way, when it is done...ya do feel better when people come over. It's also MUCH easier to maintain if you don't let it accumulate after it's clean.

I just read about the 1 in 1 out rule that Heather suggested...this is a great idea...but perhaps setting a rule of 1 in and 3 out or 1 in and 5 out if you are very cluttered would be a better rule. If it is worth getting rid of 5 items...it's really worth having and you know you will use it.

I do allow myself a couple of hidden areas of messiness. My closet is messy, and I have a drawer and a cupboard that are messy as well. I do this because sometimes ya need a place to hide something quick when someone is coming over and since they are out of sight...I rarely get to those areas. LOL.

I will also say...I am fairly new to this clean house (in it since October) so check with me again in a year to see if I have maintained it. :) Cindra
haha, i know...me too but see the thing is, i will keep it clean for a little while and when everything gets overwhelming it gets OVERWHELMING and i let it build up and build up until i cant stand it anymore and i tackle the whole problem, and then it happens again...its basically a big cycle for me but all i can say is just work on it, even if you have to set yourself a reminder...hey the rooms lookin a little out of control i think im going to clean it up and i really am going to get this done, just try to keep your mind set...if worse comes to worse get some help with organization from your counselor..
Or set your "overwhelming" meter a bit lower. :)
Someone else mentioned making lists and OMG that has been a life saver for me. I found out because I was playing this video game and as the character picked up items the meter changed the percentage and I was so obsessed with getting 100%!! So I turned it into a thing I do with cleaning up. I write a list of 10 things (which also limits me so I don't get overwhelmed) and as I cross off the list I know I am 10% closer to my 100%..... unfortunately I have a hard time making myself make the list, but when I do.... I am unstoppable, lol.... It helps to have a pretty notebook just for that purpose.... also you can go back in the notebook when you are feeling bad and see how much you have accomplished... I date all of my lists.
NO!

Jo Ellen

Ever since I was a kid, I has the messy bedroom syndrome. One of the ways I would fix it (for awhile) was something my Mom did to me one-time as a kid (except she dumped drawers and all on the floor of my bedroom and I was not allowed out of my room until everything was put away and orderly)-- I would take everything off all my surfaces (they were usually all cluttered) and pile them on my bed, so I could not go to bed until I clean every off and everything back where it belonged. A couple of times having to sleep on the floor, I kept it fairly reasonable. Through the years of adulthood and even having my own children, I've had trouble keeping the piles from growing, esp. along my side of the bed. I'd take things to work on while I was in bed and then when I got sleepy, it would end up tossed over the side. Now with my children when they were kids, I told them because I hated fighting with them about their messy rooms that as long as they didn't leave dirty dishes or food remnants or it was in such a way that it was a fire hazard, I didn't care what their bedrooms looked like as long as the doors could be closed. It was one less battle I has to fight with them about and I remember how much arguing and grounding I got from my Mother, I wasn't going to be like her. So, they grew up dealing with their own messes and I figured if they weren't embarrassed to let their friends in their messy rooms, I didn't care. The rest of the house I had them help me keep picked up. Now they are out on their own, every single one of they were neat freaks until they had children of their own. Two of them, have nice big houses and have finished off their basements and the children are only allowed to have their toys down there. A luxury I never and still don't have, although I do have a sewing studio and a quilting studio, which are both messy and so is along side of my bed. I've worked at it but never have been able to keep my side of the bed not messy. I haven't read through all the posts, but I am sure you are not alone and I am, also, sure several people will have some sort of solutions that works for them.

Again, Jo Ellen
I make lists, but I lose them. They usually end up in a pile of paperwork somewhere. I once tried to make a list of everything I had to do. Talk about overwhelming! Of course, I can't find the note book I start this list. I went from room to room. Way too much to do and them it gets depressing ( and for those of us already struggling with depression) it is not the way to approach it, otherwise, my notebook and other lists wouldn't be missing. My biggest problem is: I maybe working on some clutter in one area and I find I need something and I go into another room. In order to find that something, which I know I have, I end up working on a pile or so in that room. Then, I forget that I was working some place else and it never seems to get done. It is like a vicious circle. I have tried to make a pledge to try and at least kept my kitchen table cleaned off and my computer desk. Some days I can accomplish that but before I turn around there is stuff on it it again. The kitchen table I can use do when I am home alone while my husband is out on the road. But, when he is home that is where he put his stuff probably because that is the only empty spot he can find.

Jo Ellen

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